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WE

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CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED SINCE

[I. Call Commission meeting to order]

WE HAVE QUORUM.

UM, SO FIVE O'CLOCK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? IKA, AKA.

PRESENT.

CHRIS CLEMMER.

HERE.

MONICA PIERRE.

HERE.

FRANK YOUNG.

ABSENT.

JOEL MCCLELLAN.

ABSENT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

EVERYBODY

[III. Review and approval of Minutes from the September 17, 2025 meeting]

WAS SENT THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING.

UM, WAS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THAT OR CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE MINUTES HAVE PASSED.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.

OKAY.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

UM, WE'LL MOVE ON

[V. Presentation and discussion of Inspector General Report and public discussion of any recently published reports, open letters, data, and statistics by the Office of Inspector General]

TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT.

UM, I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND JUST TO CALL OUT, UM, SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

UM, WE HAVE ALL JUST RETURN FROM THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF ASSOCIATIONS FOR INSPECTORS GENERAL.

SO THAT, UM, ENSURES THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR NECESSARY CONTINUING EDUCATION UNITS.

UM, WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THREE PRESENTATIONS, TWO PLAN ONES, AND ONE IMPROMPTU 'CAUSE THE GOVERNMENT WAS SHUT DOWN AND SO EVERYBODY WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK, UH, TO FILL IN.

SO ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS GIVEN WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK, UM, WHICH I MODERATED A PANEL OF FIVE INSPECTORS, GENERAL, FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL, UM, IN WHICH WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT CHALLENGES TO INDEPENDENCE, ACCESS TO RECORDS, UH, TERM LIMITS, UM, ABILITY TO GET RECORDS WAS SORT OF LIKE THE PANEL DISCUSSIONS.

UM, JEFFREY ADOLPH ALSO PRESENTED A BLOCK ON OUR FINDINGS TRACKER TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, HOW WE TRACK OUR FINDINGS AND PUBLISH IT TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I DID A, UM, CASE STUDY ON BEERS, TACOS, AND FEDERAL DOLLARS ON OUR, UH, PUBLIC LETTER THAT WENT OUT.

UM, JEFFREY ADOLPH WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO WAS DUE EVALUATION DURING THIS, UM, LAST TIME PERIOD, AND HE WAS EVALUATED, UM, AND RECEIVED A RAISE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR POLICIES.

UM, IF YOU FLIP TO PAGE FOUR, UM, OF MY REPORT, UM, I'LL JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, IN FACT, FINE TUNED OUR FINDINGS TRACKER.

UM, THE BUTTON IS STILL ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT WE WENT AHEAD, UM, JUST FOR GREATER CLARITY AND SPECIFICITY.

WE CARVED OUT CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED IN PUBLIC LETTERS, AND SO THOSE ARE NOW COUNTED AND CATALOGED.

AND WE CARVED OUT OBSERVATIONS THAT APPEAR EITHER IN AUDITS, INVESTIGATIONS OR EVALUATIONS.

UM, AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED FINDINGS OUTSTANDING, POSITIVE, PARTIALLY RESOLVED, RESOLVED AND UNRESOLVED.

AND SO NOW OUR FINDINGS TRACTOR CAPTURES ALL THE DATA ACROSS ALL OF REPORTS IN A CLEAR FASHION.

UM, IF YOU TURN TO PAGE FIVE, I WILL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT, UM, WE WILL BE SHORTLY PUBLISHING, UM, OUR AUDIT OF LC C'S COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT WITH THE PARISH.

UM, BACK IN 2013 OR FINALLY AROUND 2014, THE PARISH PRIVATIZED, UM, ONE OF ITS PUBLIC HOSPITALS VIA A LEASE TRANSACTION.

UM, AND THAT WAS WEST JEFF, UM, HOSPITAL WENT TO LCMC.

SO WE HAVE AN ONGOING LEASE WITH THEM WHEREBY THEY HAD CERTAIN CAPITAL COMMITMENTS.

UM, AND THOSE CAPITAL COMMITMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MONITORED BY THE PARISH.

THEY HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN MONITORED BY THE PARISH.

AND SO WE WENT IN AND WENT AHEAD AND VALIDATED WHETHER OR NOT THEY MADE THEIR CAPITAL COMMITMENTS.

SO AS OF TODAY, WE HAD OUR EXIT CONFERENCE, UM, WITH WEST JEFF SENIOR LEADERSHIP.

UM, AND I'LL HAVE TO SAY THE MOST ENJOYABLE THING ABOUT THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE, I THINK OTHER THAN ERICA SMITH PROBABLY KILLED HERSELF GETTING IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, WAS WEST.

JEFF PROVIDED US AN OFFICE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TERM OF THE AUDIT, GAVE US ACCESS TO ORIGINAL RECORDS, UM, AND THEN ASSIGN STAFF TO PROVIDE US WITH THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO JUSTIFY ALL THOSE EXPENDITURES.

THE COOPERATION WAS JUST FAR BETTER THAN WHAT WE EVER GET ON A DAILY BASIS IN THE PARISH.

SO WE'RE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT THAT, UM, AUDIT REPORT.

KIM, DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR? IT WILL BE OUT WITH AN EXPECT PUBLICATION DATE OF DECEMBER 9TH, CORRECT.

AT OR, YOU KNOW, AT OR ABOUT THAT.

UM, IF YOU TURN TO PAGE SIX, UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUT IN DRAFT AT THIS MOMENT, UM, OUR PERSONNEL HIRING PRACTICES EVALUATION.

SO THAT IS OUR EVALUATION OF CIVIL SERVICE INSIDE OF JEFFERSON PARISH.

TIME TO HIRE AND HIRING PROCESS

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TO SEE IF IT'S SORT OF LIKE MEETING ITS MISSION, UM, THAT IS OUT IN DRAFT AND THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AS WELL.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE HAVE OUT AN INVESTIGATION IN DRAFT.

SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE NINE, YOU'LL SEE THAT SEVERAL ITEMS ARE BOLDED AT THE BOTTOM.

UM, THERE IS AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT, UM, THAT IS OUT IN DRAFT AND THAT COMMENT PERIOD WILL END, UM, NOVEMBER 21ST.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE THAT OUT SHORTLY.

AND THEN I JUST WANNA CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT, I THINK I MADE MENTION THAT WE WILL HIT SEVEN THIS YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA HIT EIGHT.

I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HIT EIGHT PRODUCTS THIS YEAR.

IT WAS AN INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE YEAR, UM, CONSIDERING HOW WE STARTED.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE MANAGED THIS PRODUCTIVITY, BUT WE DID.

SO, UM, WE STARTED THE YEAR WITH AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT INTO EMERGENCY PAY FOR FIREMEN.

UM, WE HAD THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ON THE MISUSE OF PARISH TIME AND PROPERTY THAT INVOLVED THE PARKS AND REC WORKER.

UM, WE DID AN EVALUATION, WHICH WAS THE REVIEW OF THE LEASE TRANSACTION INVOLVING THE BREW PUB.

UM, WE DID AN AUDIT OF, UM, USE OF FODI OFF-DUTY LEAVE FOR EAST BANK CONSOLIDATED FIRE.

AND THEN FINALLY, AND MOST RECENTLY WE DID A PUBLIC LETTER ON THE CURRENT STATUS AND CONDITION OF THE PARISHES ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT IN ESSENCE.

SO BY THE TIME WE CONCLUDE THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A QUITE A, AN ARRAY OF WORK ACROSS LITERALLY INVESTIGATIONS AUDITS, EVALUATIONS, AND PUBLIC LETTERS ALL IN A SINGLE YEAR.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE PROJECTS UNDERWAY, UM, THAT WILL LIKELY BE COMING OUT FIRST, SECOND QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

UM, WE HAVE MET WITH SEVERAL CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, UM, SINCE I WAS LAST BEFORE YOU, INCLUDING THE OLD METRE CIVIC CLUB AS WELL AS THE WMAN CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE PARTICIPATED IN THE LOYOLA LAW SCHOOL, GOVERNMENT CAREER DAY EDUCATING, UM, NEW LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES IN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HOSTED, UM, THE PRINCETON GROUP OF GRADUATE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING BASICALLY PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND DOING SPECIFIC WORK ON ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND THEY SPENT, UM, HALF A DAY WITH US.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ATTACHED, UM, OUR THIRD QUARTER BUDGET TO ACTUAL ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DASHBOARD.

MM-HMM .

OR THE, THE SUMMARY OF FINDINGS TRACKER MM-HMM .

DOES, DO WE OUTLINE ANYWHERE EXACTLY WHAT EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES MAKE, BUT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXPLAIN TO THE COMMISSION, RIGHT.

UM, WHERE FINDINGS ARE.

JUST BECAUSE IT, THIS IS UNRESOLVED, DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT OR FOR THE PUBLIC'S, UM, KNOWLEDGE.

DO WE OUTLINE THAT ANYWHERE? SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE BUTTON AND IT TAKES YOU TO THE PAGE AT THE TOP OF IT, UM, IS LIKE A, BASICALLY FAQ ABOUT WHAT ALL THESE THINGS MEAN.

OKAY.

UM, AS WELL AS ALSO AN FAQ ON THE IDENTIFIED COSTS AND WHAT EACH OF THOSE MEANS.

UM, AND THEN A BREAKDOWN OKAY.

OF, OF THE, OF THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT CAPTURES ALL OF THESE.

AND I GUESS AS A FINAL NOTE, I SHOULD SAY, UM, 'CAUSE I SENT IT OUT RECENTLY THROUGH MR. SULLIVAN, THAT I FINISHED THE RFP FOR US TO PUT OUT THE WEBSITE REDESIGN.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT PLATFORMS ARE NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT'S IMMINENT.

UM, SO THE RFP WAS DRAFTED.

HE SHARED IT, AND I HEAR, SO WE, WE ARE SET UP TO GO BEFORE THE GENERAL ADVISORY BOARD, THE GAB BOARD, UM, WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR, UM, SOMEBODY FROM FINANCE, ET CETERA, AND THEY JUST PUT EXTRA EYES ON YOUR RFP.

UM, SO WE'RE SCHEDULED TO GO BEFORE THEM ON DECEMBER 5TH.

SO SOMETIME AFTER DECEMBER 5TH, THEN IT'LL GET PUBLISHED.

AND, UM, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WILL FILL IN THOSE FINAL DATES OF LIKE WHEN PROPOSALS ARE DUE.

THE LAST TIME WE DID AN RFP, THE PROPOSALS ARE IN FACT RECEIVED BY PURCHASING, AND THEN THEY NOTIFY US ANY QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED BY THE PROPOSERS, GO THROUGH PURCHASING, AND THEN THEY FILTER DOWN TO US.

SO, YEAH, REVIEWED THE DOCUMENT.

IT LOOKED PRETTY THOROUGH.

DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.

I WAS MOSTLY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT

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WHO PROPOSES WHAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'M, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.

BUT HOPEFULLY COST BUDGET WE CAN COVER.

IT'LL BE BOTH OUR WEBSITE AND THERE, SO, YEAH.

YEAH.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL

[VI. Consideration and Discussion of policies and procedures related to Ethics complaints]

MOVE ON TO CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO THE ETHICS.

WE HAVE A DOCUMENT, , GENERAL , AND HER STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON, I REVIEWED IT WITH THEM.

AND WHAT THIS IS, THERE IS A SECTION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE ETHICS, HOW ETHICS COMPLAINTS WILL WORK, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE CLICKED, UH, IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BASED ON A POLICY AND PROCEDURES WITH US AND HOW COMPLAINTS WILL WORK.

PRIMARILY YOU, HOW IT BOILS DOWN IS WE WILL RECEIVE THE COMPLAINT CAN BE A SWORN COMPLAINT, IT CAN BE A COMPLAINT, A WRITTEN STATEMENT ALLEGING A VIOLATION.

OR IF THE BOARD HAS INFORMATION THAT THEY BELIEVE WARRANTS A, UH, INVESTIGATION IN THE BOARD, BY MAJORITY VOTE CAN, CAN MOVE FORWARD THEN AS LONG AS IT'S JURISDICTION.

THE INVOLVES ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL, ANY PERSON DOING BUSINESS WITH THE PARISH RECEIVING PARISH FUNDS, YOU HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT INDIVIDUAL OR OVER THAT ENTITY.

UH, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A STATE ETHICS VIOLATION, YOU, WE WOULD REFER TO THE STATE ETHICS FORM.

IT'S A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT WOULD BE BEYOND THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION, AND IT WOULD GO TO A CRIMINAL AGENCY, VERY UNLIKELY THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE THAT.

UM, BUT IT DOES INVOLVE BOTH PERSONNEL, ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT.

WE DO NOT HANDLE PRIVATE DISPUTES BETWEEN ENTITIES.

UM, WELL, HOW THE COMPLAINT WILL COME IN WHEN IT COMES IN, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, WHO IS GINA, WILL DOCKET AND PROVIDE A CASE NUMBER TO THAT MATTER.

UH, AND WHETHER IT'S BY COMMISSION DECISION OR IF IT'S A SELECT COMPLAIN CAME IN, TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE REFERRED TO THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL TO INVESTIGATE, UH, BECAUSE OF BUDGETARY CONCERNS.

IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY, UNLESS THERE WAS A CONFLICT OR UNLESS THERE WAS A NEED TO SEEK INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.

AS WE'VE DONE THAT ONCE BEFORE, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR, JUST EVEN ON A LIMITED PURPOSE.

SO WE WOULD, UM, ONCE IT GOES TO INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE, THEY WOULD DO THE INVESTIGATION.

THEIR INVESTIGATION IS CONFIDENTIAL.

WE WILL NOT RECEIVE THE INFORMATION UNTIL THEIR INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED.

UH, IF IT'S A SWORN COMPLAINT, WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUAL.

LET'S, LET'S GO INTO REALLY BEGINNING ON PAGE ROOM FIVE, WHEN Y'ALL GET INVOLVED, THAT'S WHEN THERE ARE FORMAL CHARGE.

THE JPO ID OR A FEDERAL COUNSEL THAT'S BEEN RETAINED WOULD FILE FORMAL CHARGES WITH THIS COMMISSION, THE FORMAL CHARGES, THEN THE COMMISSION ACCEPTS THE, THE CHARGES, AND THERE IS AN ERROR STILL IN THAT CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE.

IIC CAM ON ON THAT.

WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE ON THE TOP OF C ONE.

IT IS NOT CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE.

WHAT IS THE, UM, AND CONRAD, IF YOU RECALL THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT IT WAS, IT WAS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE TO WARRANT.

UH, SO THE WORD CLEAR AND CONVINCING IS REMOVED AND WILL BE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE INSERTED IN C ONE.

CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE IS THE STANDARD BY WHICH YOU WILL DETERMINE IF A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED.

IT, IT'S NOT A MORE PROBABLE, NOT THAT THE TYPICAL CIVIL CASE, BUT IT'S NOT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, WHICH IS A TYPICAL CRIMINAL CASE.

SO IT'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, IS WHAT I'M CLEAR.

SO THE ONLY THE FORM OF CHARGES WOULD BE BASED UPON SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE.

AND ONCE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE HAS BEEN MADE, AND THEY'VE ISSUED THE FORM OF CHARGES, AS SOON AS THE COMMISSION ACCEPTS IT AND DOCKETED THE HEARING IS SET AT LEAST 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE, UH, SO THAT THE INDIVIDUAL RESPONDS IF I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO RECEIVE NOTICE, PREPARE THEIR DEFENSE TO DO DISCOVERY.

NOW THE NEXT SECTION, DISCOVERY GIVES THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT EVERYBODY CAN DO.

THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO EACH OTHER.

THEY CAN DO DEPOSITIONS.

THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER

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THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE TO PRESENT, ULTIMATELY PRESENT THE CASE TO YOU.

THEY GIVE EACH OTHER WITNESS LIST BECAUSE WE DON'T DO AMBUSH.

THEY GIVE EACH OTHER WITNESS LISTS, GIVE EACH OTHER, UH, EXHIBITS SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME INFORMATION AS IT IS PROCEEDING TO THE HEARING STAGE.

ONCE WE GET TO THE HEARING, YOU BECOME, YOU ARE THE JUDGES.

UH, YOU ADMINISTER OATHS.

PEOPLE CAN BE SUBPOENAED FOR THE HEARING.

UH, IF THEY DO NOT COME, WE GO TO THE 24 TO COMPEL THEIR ATTENDANCE.

HEARINGS ARE TAKEN UNDER, UH, TESTIMONY WITH THE COURT REPORTER.

STENOGRAPHIC MEANS, UM, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO COUNSEL.

THE EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

WE WILL, WE REQUIRE ALL THE STIPULATED FACTS AND UNDISPUTED, UM, EVIDENCE TO BE PRESENTED, THAT YOU'LL HAVE THOSE SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT PRIOR TO THE HEARING.

IF IT'S DISPUTED, IT'LL, A DECISION WILL HAVE TO BE MADE AT THE HEARING, WHETHER IT'S ADMITTED OR NOT.

BUT IF IT'S UNDISPUTED, YOU'LL RECEIVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE.

ONCE THE HEARING IS CONDUCTED, THEY WILL PRESENT EVIDENCE AND IT'S DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT.

SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS STRINGENT STANDARD THAN A TYPICAL COURT CASE.

WHEN I SAY THAT HEARSAY IS TYPICALLY NOT PERMITTED IN ANY CASE, IF THERE'S AN OBJECTION MADE IN COURT HEARSAY, IT, IT, AND HEARSAY IS AN OUT OF COURT STATEMENT, USED TO PROVE THE TRUTHFULNESS OF THE STATEMENT BEING MADE, UM, IN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.

AND IN A MATTER SUCH AS THIS, HEARSAY IS PERMITTED TO BE PROVIDED TO THIS COMMISSION.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN'T RELY ON HEARSAY FOR THE SOLE BASIS OF YOUR DECISION.

BUT THAT, THAT'S AN EXCEPTION.

IF EVIDENTIARY ISSUES COME UP, THE CHAIRMAN IS USUALLY THE ONE WHO WILL MAKE THE EVIDENTIARY DETERMINATION ON WHETHER AN, UH, AN OBJECTION IS WARRANTED OR WHETHER EVIDENCE SHOULD BE EXCLUDED OR PERMITTED TO BE ADMITTED.

JUST LIKE A, YOU ARE THE JUDGE, YOU, YOU SERVE THE SAME ROLE.

ONCE THE DECISION IS RE ONCE THE ENTIRE EVIDENCE IS SUBMITTED, THEN THE COMMISSION HAS SEVEN DAYS IN WHICH TO ISSUE AN OPINION.

IF THE, ONCE THE COMMISSION ISSUES AN OPINION, IF THE RESPONDENT DOES NOT, UH, AGREE WITH THAT OPINION, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL THAT TO THE 24TH.

JDC, WHICH IS THE COURT THAT IS IN BRETT AND JEFFERS AFFAIRS.

UM, CONSENT, CONSENT AGREEMENTS ARE PERMITTED TO BE MADE.

IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE PROSECUTOR BEING THE J-P-O-I-G AND THE RESPONDENT WANT TO ENTER INTO A CONSENT JUDGMENT, THEY CAN DO SO SUBJECT TO YOUR APPROVAL.

SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT AGREE WITH IT, SOMETIMES FOR A RECENT UNKNOWN AT THE MOMENT, YOU MIGHT NOT.

SO ULTIMATELY, IT'S YOUR CALL.

IF A CONSENT AGREEMENT IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE COMMISSION, THEN IT WILL PROCEED TO ADHERE EITHER AT THAT POINT OR AT A LATER POINT.

UH, BUT BASICALLY THIS JUST OUTLINES WHAT WE DO AND HOW THE PROCEDURES ARE DONE.

AGAIN, WE, EVERYTHING IS GOVERNED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE ACT LIKE IN LOUISIANA AND, UH, BOARD AND COMMISSION.

YOU'RE THE BOARD AND COMMISSION TO HEAR THESE MATTERS.

INDEPENDENT COUNSEL CAN BE APPOINTED BY EACH INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE.

AGAIN, IT COMES OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

UH, SO AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE OFFICER HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN ANYBODY ELSE, UH, AND CHOOSE CHIEF .

ALL INFORMATION RECEIVED REMAINS CONFIDENTIAL.

IF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CHOOSES NOT TO PROCEED AND FILE FORMAL CHARGES, THE COMMISSION WILL NEVER KNOW ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO THAT MATTER.

IF IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION STUDENTS ARE RECEIVED.

ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS ARE CONFIDENTIAL, EXCEPT THOSE MATERIALS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE HEARING TO THIS COMMISSION.

JUST THOSE MATTERS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ARE NO LONGER COVERED BY CONFIDENTIALITY.

AND WHEN I SAY CONFIDENTIALITY, OPEN, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DO NOT APPLY TO INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THEY ARE PRODUCED IN THE HEARING.

AND THE HEARING IS ULTIMATELY CONCLUDED.

UH, BECAUSE IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, THE MATTER IS PUT TO REST WITHOUT FORMAL CHARGES, OR IN THE EVENT THAT THE INVESTIGATION STOPS FOR SOME REASON, UH, IT'S TO PROTECT THE REPUTATION AND INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS AND THE REPUTATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

SO, UH, IT, IT, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS UNTIL IT COMES BEFORE YOU.

UH, WHEN IT COMES UP, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE CERTAIN OPTIONS.

YOU ALWAYS REFER A MATTER TO THE STATE ETHICS

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BOARD, AS WELL AS TAKE IT UP YOURSELF.

WE HAVE HAD ONE IN THE PAST.

AND IN THAT ONE INSTANCE, IT WAS DONE BY CONSENT.

UH, KIM REPRESENTED THE J-P-O-I-G IN THAT MATTER.

AND INDEPENDENT, UH, THE RESPONDENT HAD HER OWN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.

HE ENTERED INTO A INCIDENT THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE COMMISSION AND IT WAS AT A, AT A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND IT WAS, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE CURRENTLY.

UH, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE, UH, HOW WE DO THE PROCEDURES.

AND BASICALLY WE TRACKED THE ORDINANCE, BUT WE DID FLESH OUT THAT DISCOVERY IS PERMISSIBLE.

BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ASK, UH, IN A DEPOSITION OR WANTS TO ASK DISCOVERY, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN TRIAL BY INFLUENCE, UH, NOR IS IT WARRANT UNDER THE ORDER.

BUT WE WOULD ASK THAT, THAT Y'ALL APPROVE THE, UH, THE POLICIES IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE ANY HEARINGS DONE OUT.

DO WE HAVE ONE NOW? WE HAVE, WE HAVE REFERRED A MATTER TO INVESTIGATION.

WHERE DO WE HAVE A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS? WE DO NOT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

YES, WE HAVE, WE ONLY HAVE THE ORDINANCE.

AND THIS WAS FLESHING OUT THE ORDINANCE THAT KIM'S OFFICE UNDERTOOK A GREAT, GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO DO IT.

AND IT'S BASICALLY FLESHING OUT THE ORDINANCE AND, AND BASICALLY SETTING UP.

SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN FOR A HEARING, THEY'RE GONNA GET THESE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THEY'RE GONNA UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS OF THEM.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S, IT'S ONLY FAIR.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT.

I AM, BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE, IT WAS PARTICULARLY NOTICED BY US DURING THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR WHEN SOME THINGS DID COME FORWARD AND WE WERE NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHAT OUR INTERNAL PROCEDURE SHOULD BE.

AND SO WE FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THE PROCEDURES IN FRONT OF YOU AND, AND GET, GET EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THEY ARE.

SO THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME PUTTING TOGETHER PROCEDURES.

BUT THESE PROCEDURES ARE TRIED AND TRUE ACROSS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS IN THE STATE, AND REALLY IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.

I'LL TELL YOU, I I, UH, PROSECUTED FOR THE LOUISIANA NURSING BOARD FOR A LONG TIME AND, AND FOR THE LOUISIANA CEMETERY BOARD AMONG OTHERS.

AND, UH, WE ALWAYS COMPLIED WITH THIS TYPE OF PROCEEDING.

'CAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE, NOT EVERY RESPONDENT COMES WITH AN ATTORNEY, SO YOU WANT TO GIVE EVERY PERSON THAT WALKS IN HERE BEFORE YOU THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR CASE FAIRLY AND YOU HEAR IT IMPARTIALLY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE PROCEDURES IN PLACE IN WRITING THAT WE CAN GIVE TO SOMEONE WHEN THEY ARE FORMALLY CHARGED.

THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND WHAT THEY CAN DO IN ORDER TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

SO YES, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS .

ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK I'M, I'M GOOD.

BUT DID WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT ANY OF THIS IS DONE? UM, NOT IN OPEN COURT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

IS EVERYTHING OUT IN THE OPEN ONCE THE HEAR THE HEARING ITSELF IS AN OPEN PROCEEDING.

MM-HMM .

ANYTHING PRIOR TO THE HEARING IS NOT JUST LIKE DISCOVERY WILL NOT BE OPEN EVEN TO US.

THEY, THEY WILL CONDUCT THAT SEPARATELY.

YOU WILL RECEIVE THE FORMAL COMPLAINT, WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT THAT STAYS IN THE RECORD.

AND THEY WILL FILE AN ANSWER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THEY WILL FILE AN ANSWER.

AND THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THAT HEARING ANY DOCUMENTS THAT THEY, THEY'VE AGREED TO.

UH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE THAT ANYTHING IS, IS, UH, STIPULATED.

THEY CAN DISPUTE EVERY SINGLE FACT.

AND IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE LONGER TO DRIVE THE HEARING, UH, HAVE THE HEARING.

BUT, UM, WE WANT TO JUST MAKE IT AS FORMAL AS POSSIBLE AS FAR AS THE PROCEDURES, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE FEARFUL WHEN THEY WALK IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

'CAUSE THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

I SAW IT MANY TIMES WITH NURSES IN OUR, BEFORE WE WOULD START A HEARING, I WOULD ALWAYS GO TO THEM AND SAY, I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE COUNSEL.

WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NO FINAL DECISION MADE.

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PRESENT EVERYTHING YOU THINK IS, UH, APPROPRIATE.

AND THE, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE HAS NOT MADE A DECISION.

SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE COMING AT A DISADVANTAGE.

UH, USUALLY THE PROSECUTOR BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY TO BE FAIR WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE A, A COUNSEL.

BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL, UH, MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UH, POLICY AND PROCEDURES AS PRESENTED SECOND.

THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

AND, AND JIM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ULTIMATELY DO IS HAVE THESE ON THE WEBSITE WHEN WE HAVE REDO THE WEBSITE.

SO

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ANYTIME YOU GET A, A NOTICE OF ANY KIND THAT INVOLVES AN ETHICAL COMPLAINT, THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE WE ARE REMOVING, UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FROM THE AGENDA.

UM, AND SO

[VIII. Discussion regarding the Ethics & Compliance Commission appointment selection for the Quality Assurance Review Committee]

NOW WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION REGARDING ETHICS COMPLIANCE COMMISSION APPOINTMENT, SELECTION OF QUALITY ASSURANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, MR. JIM WETTON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, EVER SINCE THE COMMISSION BEGAN, JIM WAS THE APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION ON THE QUALITY ASSURANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UH, IT'S A BIG LIFT.

UM, NOT ONLY DO THEY READ EVERY OPINION THAT KIM'S OFFICE DOES DURING THE YEAR, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH KIM AND HER STAFF AND TALK TO OTHER OFFICE HOLDERS OR, OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.

UH, JIM, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF WORK COMMITMENTS COULD NO LONGER SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.

UH, I HAVE THREE NAMES.

IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET SOMEBODY, UH, THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE.

AND I, I WANT TO SAY I'VE NOT CONTACTED THESE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE IT'S A DECISION BY YOU, BUT I I HAVE THREE NAMES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.

UH, THE FIRST IS KYLE SHAKI, WHO IS A LONGSTANDING ATTORNEY.

HE HAS, UH, DONE ETHICS WORK.

HE'S REPRESENTED NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS IN BOTH, UH, CRIMINAL SETTING AND, UH, THE CIVIL SETTING.

HE USED TO BE AT A FIRM CALLED STONE TREATMENT AT A VERY, UH, EXCELLENT LAW FIRM.

NOW HE HAS HIS OWN LAW FIRM.

YOU MET ONE OF HIS PARTNERS LAST YEAR WHEN, UH, YOU WERE LOOKING TO HAVE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL SELECTED.

BILLY GIBBON IS ONE OF HIS PARTNERS.

UH, VERY GOOD FIRM.

DAVID WACK IS ALSO AN ATTORNEY.

HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE RACING COMMISSION CASES.

SO HE IS FAMILIAR WITH ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE, UH, VERY WELL RESPECTED, UH, SUPER LAWYER, UH, IN NEW ORLEANS.

AND THE LAST IS JAMES LAPPER, WHO IS THE CEO OF RUM.

HE'S NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE'S A VERY WELL RESPECTED, SPECIFIC BUSINESSMAN.

PROBABLY IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYERS IN THIS PARISH OF JEFFERSON, IF NOT THE LARGEST OUTSIDE OF OCHSNER THAT I'M AWARE OF.

UM, WORLDWIDE COMPANY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE POSSIBILITY OF SERVING, BUT THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE NAMES THAT WE HAVE POURED OVER TO TRY TO THINK OF WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IT.

WHO LIVES IN JEFFERSON PARISH, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A, A DOG IN THE HUNT, .

WE WANT THEM TO CARE ABOUT THE TASK.

ONE OF THE REASONS I ALSO LOOKED AT THESE THREE, JIM ALWAYS DID THE, THE HARD WORK OF TYPING IT UP, HAVING COPIES MADE, UM, EDITING THE DATA.

AND IT'S PRETTY LENGTHY REPORT, AS YOU KNOW.

SO, UM, IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY MORE THAN, UH, JOHN DOE OFF THE STREET THAT'S GONNA BE WILLING TO DO THIS.

ANY OTHER NAMES THAT YOU CAN THINK OF? I WOULD ADD TO THE LIST, THE COMMISSION, THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T START TO MEET TILL NEXT YEAR, SO THERE'S TIME TO APPOINT.

I JUST WANT TO LAY OUT THREE NAMES.

IF THERE'S OTHER NAMES THAT Y'ALL WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, WE CAN DO.

SO.

I DID NOT WANT TO CONTACT ANYBODY UNTIL Y'ALL LISTENED TO THE NAMES, THOUGHT ABOUT THE NAMES.

AND IF YOU WANT, IT CAN BE DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING, THE APPOINTMENT.

UH, WE COULD CALL THESE INDIVIDUALS, UH, GET THEIR INFORMATION, SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED, BUT WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE, SO YOU'VE NOT SPOKE TO ANY OF THESE THREE GUYS? I HAVEN'T BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS MY PLACE TO MAKE THAT CONVERSATION.

GOT IT.

QUITE CANDIDLY.

UH, I, I THINK IT'S MY PLACE TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM YOU.

I JUST LISTED THREE NAMES THAT I KNOW HAVE SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE IN THIS ARENA AND WOULD BE CAPABLE AND MAYBE WILLING TO DO IT.

I DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS OVERSTEPPING MY, MY BALANCE AND THE PROCESS.

THEY WOULD DO BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME THEY WOULD COME, THEY WOULD COME AND PRESENT IT, ACTUALLY PRESENTED BY MAY 31ST.

UM, AND THEY WOULD PRESENT BASED UPON THEIR REVIEW.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS REMAINED THE SAME AS HAS THE ADMINISTRATIONS.

SO IT'D JUST BE OUR APPOINTMENT.

THERE'S AN APPOINTMENT BY US, BY ONE, BY THE COUNCIL, AND ONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

SO THE HOURS, WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD WOULD CHANGE, BUT, UH, IT WOULD BEGIN IN EARNEST SOMETIME IN EARLY IN THE NEXT YEAR.

BUT THE REPORT IS PUBLISHED IN MAY.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME AND WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

BUT I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THINK ON THESE NAMES.

ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF? BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE.

THESE ARE JUST NAMES THAT I, I CAME UP WITH AND, AND WHO I'VE DEALT WITH OVER THE YEARS.

AND I KNOW, UH, AND I THINK WOULD BE WILLING BECAUSE IT'S A CIVIC MINDED AND THERE'S NO MONEY, THERE'S NO PER DIEM.

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JUST LIKE YOU, THEY SERVE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO A PUBLIC SERVICE.

SO ANY REASON WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ASK ALL THREE? WELL, YOU CAN ONLY GET ONE.

WELL, I KNOW WE'RE ONLY GONNA PICK ONE, BUT YOU COULD ASK ALL THREE THEIR WILLINGNESS AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A PRIORITY LIST OF WHO YOU WOULD CHOOSE OUT OF THOSE THREE, AND THEN WE GO DOWN THAT LIST.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, I THINK I WOULD ASK ALL THREE IF YOU HAD, IF YOU GAVE THAT PERMISSION AND THEN I COULD REPORT BACK.

BUT I DO THINK, UM, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE AND YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN SOMEBODY OF THAT SIGNIFICANT AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT RESIDES IN JEFFERSON AND, AND IS WILLING TO DO IT AND HAS A PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND THAT THEY CAN ASSIST IN PREPARING THAT REPORT.

'CAUSE JIM HAD SECRETARIES AND PARALEGALS WHO WERE WILLING TO WORK FOR WHO DID THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.

I, I WOULD THINK ABOUT IT IF I WERE Y'ALL.

IT'S A BIG, IT'S A BIG LIFT FOR NOW.

GIVE IT YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOU HAVE TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

ANYBODY ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF BRING TO THE TABLE, UH, AT THE MEETING AND THEN I WOULD SUGGEST AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT DECISION BE MADE.

IN THE MEANTIME, WILL YOU REACH OUT TO THOSE? I'LL REACH OUT TO ALL THREE AND I WILL REPORT BACK.

OKAY.

AND THEN BY THE NEXT MEETING, THAT DECISION COULD BE MADE.

IF YOU DO THINK OF SOMEONE, I WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL.

SO WHEN THE LIST IS PAIRED DOWN, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHO, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE OR NOT SERVE.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANY KIND OF MOTION ON THIS ITEM OR JUST FOR DISCUSSION, JUST FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.

UM, FOR ABOUT ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE MALE, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF INCLUDING AT LEAST ONE FEMALE? I WOULD LOVE, I WOULD LOVE THAT.

UH, I, I, THAT'S WHY I SAY THESE ARE NOT, THIS IS NOT AN NOT EXCLUSIVE LIST.

I, WE WANT, THE CRITERIA I SEE IS SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO READ THE DATA, WHO'S GOING TO INTERVIEW, BE AVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEWS AND WHO IS GOING TO BE WILLING TO, TO SIT AND PREPARE THIS REPORT.

IT IS A THANKLESS JOB.

UH, I KNOW MONICA AND CHRIS WERE HERE LAST YEAR.

UH, OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, VERY FEW PEOPLE IF ANYBODY COMES TO THAT MEETING WHEN THEY PRESENT THE REPORT.

SO IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT THEY'VE WORKED MONTHS AND THERE'S NOBODY BUT US TO HEAR IT.

BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S, SO I, I WOULD LOVE, I WOULD LOVE TO CONSIDER, UH, ANYBODY A, A FEMALE, ANYBODY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WHAT ABOUT TIME COMMITMENT? IF, IF SOMEONE IN A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THEY WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION? I WOULD HONESTLY TELL YOU, KIM, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SPEAK ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS AND INTERVIEWS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU JUST READING THE REPORTS, ESPECIALLY IF FOR THE FIRST YEAR, ONCE YOU GET USED TO HOW THE REPORTS ARE PREPARED, IT WOULD BE QUICKER.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 TO 20 HOURS AND JUST DIGESTING THOSE REPORTS, IF NOT MORE.

I, I KNOW I PROBABLY READ THEM A LITTLE OVERKILL, BUT I, I THINK IT'S 10 TO 20 HOURS MINIMUM.

PLUS I WOULD THINK INTERVIEW PROCESS WOULD BE ANOTHER 10 TO 20 HOURS.

AND THEN PROBABLY THE PREPARATION AND MEETING TOGETHER WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE ANOTHER PROBABLY 15 TO 20.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 60 HOUR COMMITMENT, I THINK IS A FAIR STATEMENT.

OKAY.

AND THEY HAVE TO BE A JEFFERSON PARISH RESIDENT OR THAT'S JUST PREFERRED? UH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE, UM, I JUST, MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THEY, THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, WHOEVER Y'ALL THINK, AND I WOULD MAKE THE LIST AS BROAD AS YOU THINK IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THIS IS A, AN IMPORTANT PERSON TO FILL.

I JUST, THESE WERE NAMES I, I'M AWARE OF IN THE COMMUNITY PROVIDE A SERVICE AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON IT'S OUT THERE.

OKAY.

SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE DECIDE THIS BY THE JANUARY MEETING OR JANUARY 21ST.

OKAY.

I THINK IF WE, I WILL GET IT, GET WHETHER THEY WILL DO IT OR NOT, I WILL HAVE THEIR BACKGROUNDS PROVIDED WITH YOU.

SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE NAMES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERED, GET THEIR BACKGROUND AND, AND THEIR WILLINGNESS AND THEN I THINK IT'S AN EASY OKAY.

EASY DECISION FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON.

UM,

[IX. Determination of Commission Meeting Schedule for 2026 (subject to ability to reserve Council Chambers for meeting) - Jan. 21, Mar. 18, May 20, Jul 15, Sept. 16, Nov 18, 2026.]

TO DECIDE WHEN THAT JANUARY MEETING WILL BE.

SO DETERMINATION OF COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 2026.

I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK OVER THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY THAT STAND OUT THAT HAVE A CONFLICT FOR YOU PERSONALLY.

I ALREADY CHECKED, SO, UH, I'M GOOD.

OKAY, GREAT.

IT'S ALWAYS THIRD, THIRD, THIRD WEDNESDAY.

SO I ALWAYS SAY CAN'T DO IT.

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WELL MARDI GRAS IS FEBRUARY 17TH.

CORRECT.

SO WE MISS IT.

YEP.

ENTIRELY .

YEAH.

OKAY.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO VOTE ON THESE? UM, IF, IF, IF IT'S, IF EVERYBODY IS FINE WITH IT, IT'S FINE.

GINA WILL JUST POST IT.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

SO JANUARY 21ST WILL BE THE NEXT ONE FOR 2026.

UM, I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW IT OKAY.

IF THE, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IF, IF SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE THEN WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.

WE WILL NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR CONSIDERATION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS.

SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND THEN I WILL CALL THOSE SO MOVE SECOND.

OKAY.

WE NEED A ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

IKA.

AKA YES.

CHRIS CLEMEN.

YES.

MONICA PIERRE.

YES.

JOEL MCCLELLAN.

YES.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

WE'RE GONNA TUCK BACK HERE INTO THIS ROOM JUST FOR THE RECORD SO EVERYONE KNOWS THEY DO HAVE TO BE DOWN THE BESIDE IN JEFFERSON PARISH ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO GET OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? I MOVE TO GET OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECONDED.

WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

UH YES.

CHRIS CLEMENT? YES.

MONICA PIERRE.

YES.

JOEL MCCLELLAN? YES, IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS FROM

[X. Executive Session for the Consideration of Personnel matters]

THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? UH, JERRY, WHY DON'T YOU READ, I'M GONNA, YEAH, THIS WILL BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL SALARY ALLOWANCE AND BENEFIT FOR KIM'S RAIN SHADOWING FOR 26 THROUGH 2030.

THAT WAS RESOLVED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 66 DATED JULY 30TH, 2025.

THE KIM RAINS GELING APPOINTED INSPECTOR GENERAL WITH THE TERM 26 THROUGH 2030 BEGINNING ON MARCH 18TH, 2026 AND ENDING MARCH 17TH, 2030.

WHEREAS THE ANNUAL SALARY OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WILL BE 182,000 AS IN MARCH 17TH, 2026.

WHEREAS KIM RAIN'S SHADOW LANE IS INSPECTOR GENERAL SHALL RECEIVE A CAR ALLOWANCE IN A LIKE MANNER TO PARISH DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE STAFF UNDER THE EXECUTIVE PAY PLAN NOT TO EXCEED 500 MILES PER MONTH AT THE CURRENT IRS STANDARD MILEAGE RATE APPLIED BY THE PARISHS WHERE KIM RAIN SHADOW LANE IS.

INSPECTOR GENERAL SHALL RECEIVE A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE AND A LIKE MANNER AS TO PARISH DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE STAFF UNDER THE EXECUTIVE PAY PLAN NOT TO EXCEED $85 PER MONTH.

WHEREAS KIM RAINS SHADOW LANE AS AN INSPECTOR GENERAL IS AN UNCLASSIFIED POSITION ENTITLED TO PARTICIPATE IN RETIREMENT BENEFITS AND RECEIVE OTHER BENEFITS IN A LIKE MANNER TO PARIS DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE STAFF UNDER THE EXECUTIVE PAY PLAN WITH LIKE YEARS OF SERVICE.

WHEREAS KIM IS INSPECTOR GENERAL HOLDS NUMEROUS PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND CERTIFICATIONS, WHICH BECAME HER HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION AND SHALL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND CERTIFICATIONS.

THE COST OF WHICH SHALL BE REIMBURSED IN A LIKE MANNER COMPLIANT WITH THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL MANUAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THESE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHICH MAY AFFECT REIMBURSABLE COSTS SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION AS IT RATES RELATES TO KIM RANGE SHADOWING AS INSPECTOR GENERAL.

NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE JEFFERSON PARISH ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION, THAT THE ANNUAL SALARY FOR INSPECTOR GENERAL KIM RAIN SHADOWING SHALL BE 182,000 EFFECTIVE MARCH 18TH, 2026.

WHICH ANNUAL SALARY SHALL BE FIXED FOR THE TERM OF MARCH 18TH, 2026 THROUGH MARCH 17TH, 2027.

UH, AND SHALL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY THEREAFTER.

IT WITH REGARD TO PERFORMANCE REVIEWS BE RESOLVED BY THE INSPECTOR BY THE JEFFERSON PARISH ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION TO KEN RAINS AS INSPECTOR GENERAL SHALL RECEIVE A CAR ALLOWANCE NOT TO EXCEED 500 MILES PER MONTH AT THE CURRENT IRS STANDARD MILEAGE FREIGHT APPLIED BY THE PARISH AND A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE OF $85 A MONTH IN A LIKE MANNER TO PARISH IN DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE STAFF UNDER THE EXECUTIVE PAY PLAN.

IT RESOLVED THAT THAT BY THE JEFFERSON PARISH ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION THAT KIM RAINS CHAT LANE IS INSPECTOR GENERAL IS AN UNCLASSIFIED POSITION AND ENTITLED TO PARTICIPATE IN RETIREMENT BENEFITS AND RECEIVE OTHER BENEFITS IN A LIKE MANNER PARISH DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE STAFF UNDER THE EXECUTIVE PAY PLAN WITH LIKE YEARS IN SERVICE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED BY THE JEFFERSON PARISH ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION THAT KIM RAINS SHADOWING AS INSPECTOR GENERAL HOLDS NUMEROUS PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND CERTIFICATIONS WHICH DEEMER HIGHLY QUALIFIED IN THE POSITION AND SHALL CONTINUE TO MAIN THOSE MAINTAIN THOSE PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND CERTIFICATIONS, THE COST OF WHICH SHALL BE REIMBURSED AND LIKE MATTER COMPLIANT WITH THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL MANUAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

ANY SUBSTANTIVE

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CHANGE TO THESE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHICH MAY, UH, AFFECT REIMBURSABLE COSTS SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE COMMISSION AS IT RELATES TO KIM RAINS SHADOWING AS INSPECTOR GENERAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE THAT HAS PASSED.

[XI. Reminder: Financial disclosures and Education and Training on the Code of Governmental Ethics must be completed each year by each Commission Member as required by La. R.S. 42:1170 ]

UM, JUST A REMINDER, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES, UM, AND EDUCATION AND TRAINING ON THE CODE OF GOVERNMENT ETHICS MUST BE COMPLETE EACH YEAR BY COMMISSION MEMBERS AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

GINA, IF ANY COMMISSIONER HAS NOT.

OKAY.

I'VE CHECKED EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY'S GOOD.

AND JOEL IS THE LAST TO DO SOME TRAINING AND HE'S ON THAT AS WELL.

GREAT.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY NEW BUSINESS.

[XIII. Next Meeting Date: TBD]

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 21ST.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND.

SECOND EVERYBODY.